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		<title>Deputy Cuffe  &#8211; Tell us how you have not copped out?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wonder how the lesbian and gay members of the Green Party are feeling this morning &#8211; there are quite a few of them &#8211; some of very long standing, others quite new. I know how many Green Party voters are feeling &#8211; their ire is all through lesbian and gay message boards and filling [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how the lesbian and gay members of the Green Party are feeling this morning &#8211; there are quite a few of them &#8211; some of very long standing, others quite new. I know how many Green Party voters are feeling &#8211; their ire is all through lesbian and gay message boards and filling up the inboxes of Green Party TD&#8217;s. One of the great things about the Civil Union bill (and the visibility and campaigning of Labour LGBT) is that many non political lesbians and gay men have got interested and angry in a way that they were not allowed or permitted by other movements/organisations.</p>
<p>I wonder how Green Party officials will feel at their next European Green getogether &#8211; you know looking in the face of Greens from those many countries who have full civil partnerships and marriage and indeed a variety of options on offer. A fine example of Green Party Action in Government.</p>
<p>A little reminder from wikipedia..and <a target="_blank" href="http://www.ilga-europe.org/europe/issues/marriage_and_partnership/same_sex_marriage_and_partnership_country_by_country">here&#8217;s a link to an excellent ILGA summary of the situation.</a></p>
<blockquote><p><a title="Civil partnership" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_partnership">Civil partnership</a>, <a title="Domestic partnership" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_partnership">domestic partnerships</a>, <a title="Unregistered partnership" class="new" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Unregistered_partnership&#038;action=edit">Unregistered partnership</a> or <a title="Registered partnership" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Registered_partnership">registered partnerships</a> offer varying amounts of the benefits of marriage and are available in: <a title="Andorra" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andorra">Andorra</a>, <a title="Colombia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colombia">Colombia</a>, <a title="Croatia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatia">Croatia</a>, <a title="Czech Republic" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czech_Republic">Czech Republic</a>, <a title="Denmark" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denmark">Denmark</a>, <a title="Finland" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finland">Finland</a>, <a title="France" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France">France</a>, <a title="Germany" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany">Germany</a>, <a title="Hungary" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungary">Hungary</a>, <a title="Iceland" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceland">Iceland</a>, <a title="Israel" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel">Israel</a>, <a title="Luxembourg" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxembourg">Luxembourg</a>, <a title="New Zealand" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand">New Zealand</a>, <a title="Norway" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norway">Norway</a>, <a title="Portugal" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portugal">Portugal</a>, <a title="Slovenia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slovenia">Slovenia</a>, <a title="South Africa" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa">South Africa</a>, <a title="Sweden" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden">Sweden</a>, <a title="Switzerland" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switzerland">Switzerland</a> and the <a title="United Kingdom" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom">United Kingdom</a>. They are also available in <strong>some parts</strong> of <a title="Argentina" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentina">Argentina</a>, <a title="Brazil" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil">Brazil</a> (<a title="Rio Grande do Sul" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rio_Grande_do_Sul">Rio Grande do Sul</a>), <a title="Mexico" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico">Mexico</a>, the <a title="United States" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States">U.S.</a> states of <a title="California" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California">California</a>, <a title="Connecticut" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connecticut">Connecticut</a>, <a title="Hawaii" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaii">Hawaii</a>, <a title="Maine" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maine">Maine</a>, <a title="New Hampshire" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Hampshire">New Hampshire</a> (effective January 1, 2008), <a title="New Jersey" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Jersey">New Jersey</a>, <a title="Oregon" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon">Oregon</a> (effective January 1, 2008), <a title="Vermont" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermont">Vermont</a>, <a title="Washington" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington">Washington</a> state, and the <a title="District of Columbia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia">District of Columbia</a> (Washington, D.C.); <a title="Uruguay" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uruguay">Uruguay</a> (effective November 1, 2007).</p>
<p>In the United Kingdom, <a title="Civil partnerships" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_partnerships">civil partnerships</a> have identical legal status to a marriage, and partners gain all the same benefits and associated legal rights; ranging from tax exemptions and joint property rights, to <a title="Next-of-kin" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next-of-kin">next-of-kin</a> status and shared parenting responsibilities. Partnership ceremonies are performed by a marriage registrar in exactly the same manner as a <a title="Secular" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular">secular</a> <a title="Civil marriage" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_marriage">civil marriage</a>. <a title="Civil unions in New Zealand" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_unions_in_New_Zealand">Civil unions in New Zealand</a> are identical to British civil partnerships in their association with equivalent spousal rights and responsibilities to fully-fledged heterosexual marriage.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Full marriage is presently available to same-sex couples in seven countries. <a title="Same-sex marriage in the Netherlands" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage_in_the_Netherlands">The Netherlands</a> was the first country to allow same-sex marriage in 2001. Same-sex marriages are also recognized in <a title="Same-sex marriage in Belgium" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage_in_Belgium">Belgium</a>, <a title="Same-sex marriage in Canada" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage_in_Canada">Canada</a>, <a title="Same-sex marriage in South Africa" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage_in_South_Africa">South Africa</a>, <a title="Same-sex marriage in Spain" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage_in_Spain">Spain</a>, and the <a title="U.S. state" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._state">U.S. state</a> of <a title="Same-sex marriage in Massachusetts" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage_in_Massachusetts">Massachusetts</a></p></blockquote>
<p><a target="_blank" href="http://www.greenparty.ie/en/policies/marriage_and_partnership_rights">Irish Green Party Policy on Same Sex relationships? </a>Marriage? Civil Unions? Rights for non registered co-habitants &#8211; ah remember that?</p>
<p>Private member Bills are never perfect, neither is government proposed legislation &#8211; that is what amendments are for. But in the real world private members Bills are not usually accepted unless you are <a href="http://www.politicsinireland.com/category/td/alan-shatter/">Alan Shatter</a> T.D.  But with a government main party so well known for long fingering things, the sayings of Bertie at the openings of gay organisations and community centres were wearing very thin.</p>
<p>So in world where equality is given it&#8217;s full meaning and the Greens stand by their principles, we should have expected far far more that the rubbish promised last night and danced out in press releases as a victory. Heads of a bill published in 6 months dealing with other types of relationships and governed by some Agency &#8211; introducing new forms of half rights and lots of wrongs.</p>
<p>I have been berated for being too hard on the Greens &#8211; been told that I don&#8217;t know how hard they had to work on the issue to get the March &#8217;08 commitment. If that is hard work I&#8217;d hate to see you in a real crisis lads. I&#8217;m not even one of the queers looking for use of the M (marriage) word &#8211; but with what Lenihan has hinted at and <a href="http://www.politicsinireland.com/category/td/ciaran-cuffe/">Ciaran Cuffe</a> himself has revealed we&#8217;re not even going to get full civil partnership rights &#8211; just a load of nods and winks <em>(Kieran Rose from GLEN called it a Hire Purchase Agreement this morning &#8211; I think that is going to stick!)</em> hidden under a carpet along with a string of other types of friendships, blood relationships and house-sharers.</p>
<p>Principled Pragmatists (PP) is what Ciaran Cuffe describes his position as on Morning Ireland this morning &#8211; oh that&#8217;s far too generous- get the stuff right the first time &#8211; give Marie Geoghegan Quinn  a call &#8211; she brought full equality in 14 years ago the first time round and that was sex between men she was dealing with! (Update: <a target="_blank" href="http://bonhom.ie/2007/11/equality-not-qualifiable-gay-marriage-the-only-way.html">More on the Greens and PP over with Dermod.)</a></p>
<p>In their first major test the Greens have sold us out &#8211; keeping us in our lowly places not equal at all.  Shame&#8230;</p>
<p>Archbishops House must be really quite happy today at the plans&#8230;I&#8217;ll be putting up the speeches from last nights debate later today for a bit of further dissemination. The Oireachtas Website is fairly inaccessible at times &#8211; people need to see how they were cast aside.</p>
<p>PS: Congratulations to the Lesbians and Gay Men in <a target="_blank" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_unions_in_Uruguay">Uruguay </a>who get civil partnership rights from today &#8211; so do heterosexual couples, no mention of aunts, brothers, hire purchasing or housesharers there.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 00:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lots of coverage for this new initiative launched yesterday outside Leinster House. I note that the site has a blog and a heavy concentration on civil union issues and &#8216;how your politician voted&#8217; in the recent private members debate on the Labour Party&#8217;s Civil Union Bill. I&#8217;ll give lots of link love to any reader [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of coverage for this new <a target="_blank" href="http://www.thegayvote.ie">initiative </a>launched yesterday outside Leinster House. I note that the site has a <a target="_blank" href="http://www.thegayvote.ie/">blog </a>and a heavy concentration on civil union issues and &#8216;how your politician voted&#8217; in the recent private members debate on the Labour Party&#8217;s Civil Union Bill.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll give lots of link love to any reader of the site that finds the word lesbian &#8211; for these boys the gay vote seems genderless.</p>
<p>This idea promises much and I hope to see analysis of party manifestos on issues other than the recognition of same sex unions.</p>
<p>Lesbians and gay men have concerns about our/their sexuality and how it interacts with health, education, policing, family rights, foreign affairs,  employment, disability, ethnicity and social services. I&#8217;m not one of those people who says I&#8217;m lesbian but that&#8217;s only part of me &#8211; in fact</p>
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<li>I&#8217;m a lesbian and I want my health service to recognise that fact and stop asking me about contraception and presuming that I am straight. I want the health care staff who treat me to have training in lesbian health issues, to know I am more at risk of certain diseases due to homophobia and healthcare and not to presume that because I&#8217;m a lesbian I&#8217;m not at risk of other illnesses either.</li>
<li>I&#8217;m a lesbian and I&#8217;m fed up hearing about young lesbians and gay men being bullied in school and want a clear policy on it in every school in the country whatever the religious ethos.</li>
<li>I&#8217;m a lesbian and I want to know that all members of An Garda Siochana have been trained in lesbian and gay awareness not just a few special ones. and that if I have a problem with how I am treated by the Gardai that I have recourse to action, advocacy and support.</li>
<li>I&#8217;m a lesbian and I want to know the Irish Government will not aid or support foreign governments or initiatives that sponsor hatred and murder of their lesbian and gay citizens.</li>
<li>I&#8217;m a lesbian and I want to know that the Irish Government will not aid or support Irish based organisations that do not fully include women in their work and not just for window dressing.</li>
<li>I&#8217;m a lesbian and I would like to see more support available to lesbians and gay men who are discriminated in work and the receipt of goods and services &#8211; we know it happens but the numbers who feel able to take cases are too low.</li>
<li>I&#8217;m a lesbian and I&#8217;d like to see the 1989 Prohibition of Incitement to Hatred Act reviewed so that a case could actually be taken under the law and that gay bashing is also made a hate crime.</li>
<li>I&#8217;m a lesbian and I recognise that other lesbians and gay men have other identities also, due to their ethnicity, family status, social status, disability, gender, geographic location, home ownership status, age, education, and religious background. My vote will go to politicians who recognise this too.</li>
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