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	<title>Comments on: Changes to be made to Civil Partnership Bill</title>
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	<description>Clucking away crookedly through media, politics and life.</description>
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		<title>By: Alan Browne</title>
		<link>http://www.mamanpoulet.com/changes-to-be-made-to-civil-partnership-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-177875</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Browne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 15:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is an easy solution to this - Allow Civil (not religious) Marraige to same-sex couples then there would be true equality without any unintended spin-off effects caused to co-habiting couples.

The proposed CP Bill is fundamentally discrimanatory due to 1. The Family Home not recognized (lack of protection one party has from debts of party incurring debts), 2. Separate Social Welfare benefits legislation and likelihood that different and lesser benefits will apply (state pension, maternity/paternity benefits, guardians payments, bereavement grant, adoptive grant, widows/widowers benefits), 3. Separate Taxation legislation and likelihood that different and lesser benefits will apply e.g. Allowances, Pension benefits, Joint Assesment etc., 4. Private Pensions and Employer Benefits may not be included whereas Marriage enshrines a right to the pension by the other party, 5. Children completely ignored. Currently a single person can adopt a child. If a family have a child from previous relationship – new partner has no parental rights, no automatic right to adoption, no say in the future of those children, no say on schooling issues, taking of child away from family etc.  – even if the deceased partner defines what should happen, 6. No ability to foster as a couple, 7. Foreign marriages not recognized, 8. Immigration rights denied, 9. No recognition under the Constitution.

So we have a solution that embeds discrimination in our Laws and causes unintended side-effects for co-habiting couples - all because the Government won&#039;t put a Constituional change to a vote in terms of Marriage!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is an easy solution to this &#8211; Allow Civil (not religious) Marraige to same-sex couples then there would be true equality without any unintended spin-off effects caused to co-habiting couples.</p>
<p>The proposed CP Bill is fundamentally discrimanatory due to 1. The Family Home not recognized (lack of protection one party has from debts of party incurring debts), 2. Separate Social Welfare benefits legislation and likelihood that different and lesser benefits will apply (state pension, maternity/paternity benefits, guardians payments, bereavement grant, adoptive grant, widows/widowers benefits), 3. Separate Taxation legislation and likelihood that different and lesser benefits will apply e.g. Allowances, Pension benefits, Joint Assesment etc., 4. Private Pensions and Employer Benefits may not be included whereas Marriage enshrines a right to the pension by the other party, 5. Children completely ignored. Currently a single person can adopt a child. If a family have a child from previous relationship – new partner has no parental rights, no automatic right to adoption, no say in the future of those children, no say on schooling issues, taking of child away from family etc.  – even if the deceased partner defines what should happen, 6. No ability to foster as a couple, 7. Foreign marriages not recognized, 8. Immigration rights denied, 9. No recognition under the Constitution.</p>
<p>So we have a solution that embeds discrimination in our Laws and causes unintended side-effects for co-habiting couples &#8211; all because the Government won&#8217;t put a Constituional change to a vote in terms of Marriage!</p>
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		<title>By: Louis</title>
		<link>http://www.mamanpoulet.com/changes-to-be-made-to-civil-partnership-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-174812</link>
		<dc:creator>Louis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 13:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vote No To Part 15</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vote No To Part 15</p>
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		<title>By: Maman Poulet &#187; Farmers get their way on property rights and cohabitation &#8211; Amendments to Civil Partnership Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.mamanpoulet.com/changes-to-be-made-to-civil-partnership-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-169159</link>
		<dc:creator>Maman Poulet &#187; Farmers get their way on property rights and cohabitation &#8211; Amendments to Civil Partnership Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 14:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] property, pensions etc in cases of claims of the death of one of the couple. Farmers organisations have been lobbying hard for changes to the legislation and there has been mention of &#8216;predatory females&#8217; &#8216;predatory solicitors&#8217; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] property, pensions etc in cases of claims of the death of one of the couple. Farmers organisations have been lobbying hard for changes to the legislation and there has been mention of &#8216;predatory females&#8217; &#8216;predatory solicitors&#8217; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
		<link>http://www.mamanpoulet.com/changes-to-be-made-to-civil-partnership-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-166438</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 19:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Civil Partnership Bill continues its tortoise like progress in the Dail and a resumed hearing before the Justice Committee is provisionally listed for May 27th ( see Oireacthas website).

The previous provisional listing never happened (see above). The Government has not indicated when it expects the first civil partnership will take place in Ireland quite possibly because they have no idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Civil Partnership Bill continues its tortoise like progress in the Dail and a resumed hearing before the Justice Committee is provisionally listed for May 27th ( see Oireacthas website).</p>
<p>The previous provisional listing never happened (see above). The Government has not indicated when it expects the first civil partnership will take place in Ireland quite possibly because they have no idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://www.mamanpoulet.com/changes-to-be-made-to-civil-partnership-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-159600</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 17:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um isn&#039;t the whole point of CP to cater for those who CANNOT currently avail of marriage rights, not those who REJECT them as a matter of conscious choice?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um isn&#8217;t the whole point of CP to cater for those who CANNOT currently avail of marriage rights, not those who REJECT them as a matter of conscious choice?</p>
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
		<link>http://www.mamanpoulet.com/changes-to-be-made-to-civil-partnership-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-159595</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 17:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill comes before Committee again on April 28th (provisional listing).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill comes before Committee again on April 28th (provisional listing).</p>
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		<title>By: Marriage by default and the Civil Partnership Bill 2009 &#171; A Clatter of the Law</title>
		<link>http://www.mamanpoulet.com/changes-to-be-made-to-civil-partnership-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-158252</link>
		<dc:creator>Marriage by default and the Civil Partnership Bill 2009 &#171; A Clatter of the Law</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 22:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Suzy Byrne has blogged about the IFA comments and the proposed changes over on Maman Poulet. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Suzy Byrne has blogged about the IFA comments and the proposed changes over on Maman Poulet. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: SeanR</title>
		<link>http://www.mamanpoulet.com/changes-to-be-made-to-civil-partnership-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-158164</link>
		<dc:creator>SeanR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 18:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There should be two separate Bills, this is getting confusing. I don&#039;t understand farming either tho&#039;, food comes from shops, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There should be two separate Bills, this is getting confusing. I don&#8217;t understand farming either tho&#8217;, food comes from shops, no?</p>
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		<title>By: Rossa McMahon</title>
		<link>http://www.mamanpoulet.com/changes-to-be-made-to-civil-partnership-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-158085</link>
		<dc:creator>Rossa McMahon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 09:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Professor Mee published a critique of the cohabitation provisions of the CP Bill (Part 15) in the Irish Family Law Journal last year. As far as I can recall, concerns have been raised about Part 15 since it was at heads of bill stage a number of years ago, well before publication as a bill. 

Such concerns were not picked up on by the media, polticians or the wider community, whose allocation of space to the Bill has generally been consumed by other provisions. It is quite normal for such points to be made in this way; the Oireachtas has been working its way through a long and complicated bill and Part 15 is near the end. 

The fact that it has taken until now for discussion of Part 15 to receive any attention highlights some of these concerns: if passed, this is something that should be accompanied by a substantial public education campaign. 

Professor Mee, who has long advocated reform of the law for cohabitees, makes one main point in common with the IFA (and me): Part 15 is significant enough to warrant being a standalone piece of legislation. Renaming the Bill will go sone way toward raising awareness, but is somewhat laughable. Lengthening the qualification period is tinkering, rather than discussing or addressing concerns.

To be fair to the IFA, they make no mention of the rest of the Bill in their statement on the issue. Opposition to Part 15 should not necessarily be read as opposition to civil partnership or gay marriage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Professor Mee published a critique of the cohabitation provisions of the CP Bill (Part 15) in the Irish Family Law Journal last year. As far as I can recall, concerns have been raised about Part 15 since it was at heads of bill stage a number of years ago, well before publication as a bill. </p>
<p>Such concerns were not picked up on by the media, polticians or the wider community, whose allocation of space to the Bill has generally been consumed by other provisions. It is quite normal for such points to be made in this way; the Oireachtas has been working its way through a long and complicated bill and Part 15 is near the end. </p>
<p>The fact that it has taken until now for discussion of Part 15 to receive any attention highlights some of these concerns: if passed, this is something that should be accompanied by a substantial public education campaign. </p>
<p>Professor Mee, who has long advocated reform of the law for cohabitees, makes one main point in common with the IFA (and me): Part 15 is significant enough to warrant being a standalone piece of legislation. Renaming the Bill will go sone way toward raising awareness, but is somewhat laughable. Lengthening the qualification period is tinkering, rather than discussing or addressing concerns.</p>
<p>To be fair to the IFA, they make no mention of the rest of the Bill in their statement on the issue. Opposition to Part 15 should not necessarily be read as opposition to civil partnership or gay marriage.</p>
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		<title>By: Colm</title>
		<link>http://www.mamanpoulet.com/changes-to-be-made-to-civil-partnership-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-157868</link>
		<dc:creator>Colm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adding hetrosexual relationships to the bill resulting from a long lasting gay campaign. Extending the time to 5 years.  These sound like changes designed to smooth the passage through the Fianna Fail backbenchers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adding hetrosexual relationships to the bill resulting from a long lasting gay campaign. Extending the time to 5 years.  These sound like changes designed to smooth the passage through the Fianna Fail backbenchers.</p>
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