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	<title>Comments on: Fine Gael&#8217;s New Website &#8211; thanks to the BBC (And Twitter!)</title>
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		<title>By: Rónán Mistéil&#039;s blog - Musings and meanderings about anything and everything&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rónán Mistéil&#039;s blog - Musings and meanderings about anything and everything&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2011 18:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Don&#8217;t steal things from other sources and blatantly use them as your own without permission. You will get caught out. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Don&#8217;t steal things from other sources and blatantly use them as your own without permission. You will get caught out. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Fine Gael, Brazil and Ravi Singh</title>
		<link>http://www.mamanpoulet.com/fine-gaels-new-website-thanks-to-the-bbc/comment-page-1/#comment-246068</link>
		<dc:creator>Fine Gael, Brazil and Ravi Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 20:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] things are never as they seem and techies and website developers discovered that Fine Gael had a little help for their design from a freelancer who used BBC code in the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: &#187; How Fianna failed and the Fine-gall of it all.</title>
		<link>http://www.mamanpoulet.com/fine-gaels-new-website-thanks-to-the-bbc/comment-page-1/#comment-106132</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; How Fianna failed and the Fine-gall of it all.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 23:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] back to Mamapoulet: &#8220;Above all this incident is about the second biggest party in the state and another example [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Fine Gael and the BBC website &#8211; On Chris&#8217;s Blog &#171; Sam&#8217;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.mamanpoulet.com/fine-gaels-new-website-thanks-to-the-bbc/comment-page-1/#comment-105146</link>
		<dc:creator>Fine Gael and the BBC website &#8211; On Chris&#8217;s Blog &#171; Sam&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 22:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of talk on the blogosphere about this issue, including posts on Politics, and the original post on Maman Poulet. Steph, a web designer and developer whose blog may be found here observes: &#8220;Their [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of talk on the blogosphere about this issue, including posts on Politics, and the original post on Maman Poulet. Steph, a web designer and developer whose blog may be found here observes: &#8220;Their [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Michele</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 16:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are people so surprised?

FF outsourced its website to a US company, yet is &quot;doing its best to bolster the Irish economy&quot; - even if their online presence is in the US ...

FG ripped off the BBC - it would have been even more amusing if the &quot;Republican party&quot; had, but no matter ...

The Greens spammed a load of bloggers.

I&#039;m not sure what labour have done ... Anyone?

Michele</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are people so surprised?</p>
<p>FF outsourced its website to a US company, yet is &#8220;doing its best to bolster the Irish economy&#8221; &#8211; even if their online presence is in the US &#8230;</p>
<p>FG ripped off the BBC &#8211; it would have been even more amusing if the &#8220;Republican party&#8221; had, but no matter &#8230;</p>
<p>The Greens spammed a load of bloggers.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what labour have done &#8230; Anyone?</p>
<p>Michele</p>
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		<title>By: Maman Poulet &#187; Cheap Job, Badly Done.</title>
		<link>http://www.mamanpoulet.com/fine-gaels-new-website-thanks-to-the-bbc/comment-page-1/#comment-104018</link>
		<dc:creator>Maman Poulet &#187; Cheap Job, Badly Done.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 12:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 4 hours after the initial revelation that there was BBC code all over the new FG website design Enda sent an email to members and subscribers - 6.26pm in the evening. It was rather hurried as I pointed to when I posted it on Thursday night. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 4 hours after the initial revelation that there was BBC code all over the new FG website design Enda sent an email to members and subscribers &#8211; 6.26pm in the evening. It was rather hurried as I pointed to when I posted it on Thursday night. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dorothy Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.mamanpoulet.com/fine-gaels-new-website-thanks-to-the-bbc/comment-page-1/#comment-104017</link>
		<dc:creator>Dorothy Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 11:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Without even looking at the code it is the most blatant rip-off I&#039;ve seen. They&#039;ve even used the exact same widths, margins and back-ground colours.

More embarrassement for our nation. I wonder how the BBC feel about it? I would be livid. FG ought to be ashamed of themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without even looking at the code it is the most blatant rip-off I&#8217;ve seen. They&#8217;ve even used the exact same widths, margins and back-ground colours.</p>
<p>More embarrassement for our nation. I wonder how the BBC feel about it? I would be livid. FG ought to be ashamed of themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: steve white</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve white</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 02:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>theres difference between design and content, obviously the russian guy didn&#039;t take the video of pascal, but fg spokesperson is mudlling the percentages, the rip off was fine gael&#039;s doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>theres difference between design and content, obviously the russian guy didn&#8217;t take the video of pascal, but fg spokesperson is mudlling the percentages, the rip off was fine gael&#8217;s doing.</p>
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		<title>By: Maman Poulet &#187; Mandatory Stance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maman Poulet &#187; Mandatory Stance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 00:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to self &#8230;.And I just thought I&#8217;d got the scoop on FG&#8217;s new website before the launch huh? I must continue to learn to never underestimate bloggers especially the non political junkie [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to self &#8230;.And I just thought I&#8217;d got the scoop on FG&#8217;s new website before the launch huh? I must continue to learn to never underestimate bloggers especially the non political junkie [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David Cochrane</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Cochrane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 12:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In an email last night in response to some queries that I emailed him about finegael.org, Ciaran Conlon (The FG Communications Director) said the site on finegael.org wasn&#039;t the finished project, yet it seems to be precisely what is on finegael.ie now with a few tweaks. He also said what people saw on finegael.org may not necessarily be what people see on finegael.ie today - it&#039;s clear that what was on finegael.org *is* now on finegael.ie - indeed the finegael.ie website seems to be pulling alot of code and content from finegael.org at present.

Quote:
&quot;The site that some people have viewed at the .org address is not necessarily what people will see tomorrow.&quot; - Ciaran Conlon

Ciaran Conlon acknowledged that the getafreelancer.com job-ad was indeed by FG - and that ad does ask for a website that looks like bbc.co.uk.

Ciaran Conlon also said the ad represented 5% of the final product, 5% or 50% is unimportant, an email in Enda Kenny&#039;s name yesterday (posted by Suzy on this blog) said the site was done in Ireland in-house or by a third party. Yet this &quot;5%&quot; of work was done by someone in Russia. Thus what was sent on behalf of Enda Kenny appears to be incorrect, at least with respect to 5%.

Quote:
&quot;2. The ad u refer wasn&#039;t about the website design - which was done inhouse - but for some freelance programming for about 5% of the site.&quot; - Ciaran Conlon

http://www.getafreelancer.com/projects/PHP-XML/Web-portal-Ajax-PHP-mySql.html

The ad clearly asks for a design with bbc.co.uk as inspiration, and the gig was won by someone in Russia. I believe the quote above that says the ad was not for the website design is false.

&quot;Quote:

· All technologies are in-house including the design and creation of the website

· All third party services are provided by Ireland based companies

- Enda Kenny&quot;

Quote:
&quot;The new website is not a direct copy of the bbc website.&quot; - Ciaran Conlon

Quote:
&quot;Coz I’m a person who lives and breathes CSS from 9 to 5 I decided to dig a little deeper and boy was I surprised to see that their developers didn’t even bother to change the class names in the CSS files&quot;. - Iamsteph.com blog yesterday afternoon around 2pm. 

I&#039;m a bit peeved, I asked some questions, got a response, but I don&#039;t think the responses were honest or truthful, nor do I think they accurately reflect what is the situation - I know that&#039;s a strong allegation to make, but the commentary by iamsteph.com around 2pm makes it pretty obvious. For a party that is actively engaged in moves to become the majority coalition partner in the next Government, I&#039;m disappointed, very disappointed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In an email last night in response to some queries that I emailed him about finegael.org, Ciaran Conlon (The FG Communications Director) said the site on finegael.org wasn&#8217;t the finished project, yet it seems to be precisely what is on finegael.ie now with a few tweaks. He also said what people saw on finegael.org may not necessarily be what people see on finegael.ie today &#8211; it&#8217;s clear that what was on finegael.org *is* now on finegael.ie &#8211; indeed the finegael.ie website seems to be pulling alot of code and content from finegael.org at present.</p>
<p>Quote:<br />
&#8220;The site that some people have viewed at the .org address is not necessarily what people will see tomorrow.&#8221; &#8211; Ciaran Conlon</p>
<p>Ciaran Conlon acknowledged that the getafreelancer.com job-ad was indeed by FG &#8211; and that ad does ask for a website that looks like bbc.co.uk.</p>
<p>Ciaran Conlon also said the ad represented 5% of the final product, 5% or 50% is unimportant, an email in Enda Kenny&#8217;s name yesterday (posted by Suzy on this blog) said the site was done in Ireland in-house or by a third party. Yet this &#8220;5%&#8221; of work was done by someone in Russia. Thus what was sent on behalf of Enda Kenny appears to be incorrect, at least with respect to 5%.</p>
<p>Quote:<br />
&#8220;2. The ad u refer wasn&#8217;t about the website design &#8211; which was done inhouse &#8211; but for some freelance programming for about 5% of the site.&#8221; &#8211; Ciaran Conlon</p>
<p><a href="http://www.getafreelancer.com/projects/PHP-XML/Web-portal-Ajax-PHP-mySql.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.getafreelancer.com/projects/PHP-XML/Web-portal-Ajax-PHP-mySql.html</a></p>
<p>The ad clearly asks for a design with bbc.co.uk as inspiration, and the gig was won by someone in Russia. I believe the quote above that says the ad was not for the website design is false.</p>
<p>&#8220;Quote:</p>
<p>· All technologies are in-house including the design and creation of the website</p>
<p>· All third party services are provided by Ireland based companies</p>
<p>- Enda Kenny&#8221;</p>
<p>Quote:<br />
&#8220;The new website is not a direct copy of the bbc website.&#8221; &#8211; Ciaran Conlon</p>
<p>Quote:<br />
&#8220;Coz I’m a person who lives and breathes CSS from 9 to 5 I decided to dig a little deeper and boy was I surprised to see that their developers didn’t even bother to change the class names in the CSS files&#8221;. &#8211; Iamsteph.com blog yesterday afternoon around 2pm. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m a bit peeved, I asked some questions, got a response, but I don&#8217;t think the responses were honest or truthful, nor do I think they accurately reflect what is the situation &#8211; I know that&#8217;s a strong allegation to make, but the commentary by iamsteph.com around 2pm makes it pretty obvious. For a party that is actively engaged in moves to become the majority coalition partner in the next Government, I&#8217;m disappointed, very disappointed.</p>
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