Comments on: Mary Harney cops out on Cervical Cancer vaccine roll out http://www.mamanpoulet.com/mary-harney-cops-out-on-cervical-cancer-vaccine-roll-out/ Clucking away crookedly through media, politics and life. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 16:53:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Maman Poulet » Mary Harney’s No-Brainer http://www.mamanpoulet.com/mary-harney-cops-out-on-cervical-cancer-vaccine-roll-out/comment-page-1/#comment-113810 Maman Poulet » Mary Harney’s No-Brainer Mon, 24 Aug 2009 23:12:14 +0000 http://www.mamanpoulet.com/?p=423#comment-113810 [...] No-Brainer Minister!  Here’s an example of where you need to find your brain and declare the next [...] [...] No-Brainer Minister!  Here’s an example of where you need to find your brain and declare the next [...]

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]]> By: » Now look what you’ve gone and done Mary…. » Tom Doyle :: TALK http://www.mamanpoulet.com/mary-harney-cops-out-on-cervical-cancer-vaccine-roll-out/comment-page-1/#comment-87251 » Now look what you’ve gone and done Mary…. » Tom Doyle :: TALK Sat, 29 Nov 2008 12:56:59 +0000 http://www.mamanpoulet.com/?p=423#comment-87251 [...] Mary Harney cops out on Cervical Cancer vaccine roll out [...] [...] Mary Harney cops out on Cervical Cancer vaccine roll out [...]

]]> By: Gamma Goblin http://www.mamanpoulet.com/mary-harney-cops-out-on-cervical-cancer-vaccine-roll-out/comment-page-1/#comment-85138 Gamma Goblin Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:39:32 +0000 http://www.mamanpoulet.com/?p=423#comment-85138 I’m with Joe on this. No vaccine for those filthy little whores! They deserve to die! Also fat people with heart disease, fucking lazy cunts, why should I pay for your eating habbit! Scrap A&E too! I didn’t ask you to drive the car, or climb the ladder, or use that chainsaw, or however else you suffered your “lifestyle choiceâ€? accident. Scrap Air and Sea rescue cos stupid cunts getting lost on the sea or mountain deserve to stay lost.

]]> By: Megan http://www.mamanpoulet.com/mary-harney-cops-out-on-cervical-cancer-vaccine-roll-out/comment-page-1/#comment-84682 Megan Sat, 08 Nov 2008 10:34:47 +0000 http://www.mamanpoulet.com/?p=423#comment-84682 Starting a group on Facebook to get some momentium in demanding the screening and the vacine available to all immeditially. If you have facebook, please look up the group... Thanks Starting a group on Facebook to get some momentium in demanding the screening and the vacine available to all immeditially.

If you have facebook, please look up the group…

Thanks

]]> By: Joe http://www.mamanpoulet.com/mary-harney-cops-out-on-cervical-cancer-vaccine-roll-out/comment-page-1/#comment-84489 Joe Fri, 07 Nov 2008 03:28:10 +0000 http://www.mamanpoulet.com/?p=423#comment-84489 admin quote: Joe your comment is a load of absolute rubbish - the vaccine prevents cervical cancer or HPV in women of all ages - but should be given before women become sexually active!! It’s not about protecting teenagers from a STD - it’s about protecting all women through all stages of their lives, not their lifestyles! And by the way there is a body of research that men who transmit the disease should also be vaccinated… 1. Human papilloma virus of which there are around 200 types is not the same as cervical cancer. 2. Some forms of HPV cause cervical cancer,nothing else is a known causative factor of cervical cancer.Once again ,no sexual activity ,no cervical cancer. 3. The vaccine helps the body to kill the HPV,sexually transmitted virus (it doesnt come from toilet seats). 4. The vaccine doesnt prevent cervical cancer in women of all ages,thru all stages of their lives.It protects all sexually active women. It prevents the onset of cervical cancer in sexually active women in most cases.Apperently its not as effective as 100% abstinence,but who would want that,the total abstinence I mean. I havent read the ALIVE! article referred to by Red mum in a previuos response. However it seems reasonable to me that if I (male) had been vaccinated against a STD that caused cancer and the opportunity for some early teen/pre teen sexual activity arose,I would be more inclined to go for it. It may be different for girls. I think men should be vaccinated against HPV as well especially since these viruses (virii?) are causative factors in other forms of cancer/genital warts etc. Since the vaccine is is mainly very effective against the STD of cervical cancer, I dont know how cost effective this would be.Since there are no known pre cancer tests for men for the other forms of cancer these viruses are linked to it might help them also. admin quote:
Joe your comment is a load of absolute rubbish – the vaccine prevents cervical cancer or HPV in women of all ages – but should be given before women become sexually active!! It’s not about protecting teenagers from a STD – it’s about protecting all women through all stages of their lives, not their lifestyles!

And by the way there is a body of research that men who transmit the disease should also be vaccinated…

1.
Human papilloma virus of which there are around 200 types is not the same as cervical cancer.
2.
Some forms of HPV cause cervical cancer,nothing else is a known causative factor of cervical cancer.Once again ,no sexual activity ,no cervical cancer.
3.
The vaccine helps the body to kill the HPV,sexually transmitted virus (it doesnt come from toilet seats).
4.
The vaccine doesnt prevent cervical cancer in women of all ages,thru all stages of their lives.It protects all sexually active women.
It prevents the onset of cervical cancer in sexually active women in most cases.Apperently its not as effective as 100% abstinence,but who would want that,the total abstinence I mean.

I havent read the ALIVE! article referred to by Red mum in a previuos response.
However it seems reasonable to me that if I (male) had been vaccinated against a STD that caused cancer and the opportunity for some early teen/pre teen sexual activity arose,I would be more inclined to go for it.
It may be different for girls.

I think men should be vaccinated against HPV as well especially since these viruses (virii?) are causative factors in other forms of cancer/genital warts etc.
Since the vaccine is is mainly very effective against the STD of cervical cancer, I dont know how cost effective this would be.Since there are no known pre cancer tests for men for the other forms of cancer these viruses are linked to it might help them also.

]]> By: admin http://www.mamanpoulet.com/mary-harney-cops-out-on-cervical-cancer-vaccine-roll-out/comment-page-1/#comment-84480 admin Fri, 07 Nov 2008 01:07:46 +0000 http://www.mamanpoulet.com/?p=423#comment-84480 Joe your comment is a load of absolute rubbish - the vaccine prevents cervical cancer or HPV in women of all ages - but should be given before women become sexually active!! It's not about protecting teenagers from a STD - it's about protecting all women through all stages of their lives, not their lifestyles! And by the way there is a body of research that men who transmit the disease should also be vaccinated... Joe your comment is a load of absolute rubbish – the vaccine prevents cervical cancer or HPV in women of all ages – but should be given before women become sexually active!! It’s not about protecting teenagers from a STD – it’s about protecting all women through all stages of their lives, not their lifestyles!

And by the way there is a body of research that men who transmit the disease should also be vaccinated…

]]> By: Joe http://www.mamanpoulet.com/mary-harney-cops-out-on-cervical-cancer-vaccine-roll-out/comment-page-1/#comment-84472 Joe Fri, 07 Nov 2008 00:29:11 +0000 http://www.mamanpoulet.com/?p=423#comment-84472 There seems to be some misinformation out there. The vaccine as the name implies is a vaccine for a virus STD(sexually transmitted disease) that can cause cervical cancer. No sexual activity=no cervical cancer. Amongst nuns ,it is virtually unknown. Cervical cancer isnt something caused by "the environment" The vaccine,has i believe been administered in some programs from the age of 9 onwards.In essence if you think your daughter is going to become sexually active at the age of 12 or earlier you should probably contact your local community welfare oficer as she would be at higher risk. If you and your daughter decide she wont become sexually active until later teens/the age of consent you could wait until then for the vaccine. The virus/varieties of the virus are also causative agents in anal cancer,throat cancer,prostate cancer and genital warts. The smear test is apparently very effective in showing a disposition to cervical cancer and 80-90% of all cervical cancer can be prevented with regular screening. There is no corresponding test for male predisposition to the other cancers mentioned above. It seems to me tho, since this is a "lifestyle choice" cancer it should be up to the individuals (married couples/partners/homosexuals/bisexuals/sexually active teenagers or even sexually active pre teens of both sexes to pay for their own vaccines or seek help to pay for the cost from the local cwo if sexually active early or at risk of it. There seems to be some misinformation out there. The vaccine as the name implies is a vaccine for a virus STD(sexually transmitted disease) that can cause cervical cancer.
No sexual activity=no cervical cancer.
Amongst nuns ,it is virtually unknown.
Cervical cancer isnt something caused by “the environment”
The vaccine,has i believe been administered in some programs from the age of 9 onwards.In essence if you think your daughter is going to become sexually active at the age of 12 or earlier you should probably contact your local community welfare oficer as she would be at higher risk.
If you and your daughter decide she wont become sexually active until later teens/the age of consent you could wait until then for the vaccine.
The virus/varieties of the virus are also causative agents in anal cancer,throat cancer,prostate cancer and genital warts.
The smear test is apparently very effective in showing a disposition to cervical cancer and 80-90% of all cervical cancer can be prevented with regular screening.
There is no corresponding test for male predisposition to the other cancers mentioned above.
It seems to me tho, since this is a “lifestyle choice” cancer it should be up to the individuals (married couples/partners/homosexuals/bisexuals/sexually active teenagers or even sexually active pre teens of both sexes to pay for their own vaccines or seek help to pay for the cost from the local cwo if sexually active early or at risk of it.

]]> By: Eamon http://www.mamanpoulet.com/mary-harney-cops-out-on-cervical-cancer-vaccine-roll-out/comment-page-1/#comment-84391 Eamon Thu, 06 Nov 2008 13:03:52 +0000 http://www.mamanpoulet.com/?p=423#comment-84391 sometimes I wish the opposition would get into power and and then you'll really have something to blog about. How did she 'try to hide it'??? Not telling anyone??? No. she told everyone. It's everywhere. So how could it be hid??? Anti establishment rubbish that gets no one anywhere. Did Mary Harney BAN the vaccine??? No. people can still get it for the price of a weekend away or a smaller christmas shopping list. Did she cancel it altogether?? No. it's delayed. Is the vaccine 100% effective??? Far from it. If fact some reports are saying it's actually DANGEROUS. But, hey folks, don't let the facts get in the way of a good anti-Harney rant. That's Ray Darcys philosophy anyway. Harney TOOK ON this job when no one wanted it. It's the world's toughest job and the next person/party that takes it on will have it no easier and be no more effective. sometimes I wish the opposition would get into power and and then you’ll really have something to blog about. How did she ‘try to hide it’??? Not telling anyone??? No. she told everyone. It’s everywhere. So how could it be hid??? Anti establishment rubbish that gets no one anywhere. Did Mary Harney BAN the vaccine??? No. people can still get it for the price of a weekend away or a smaller christmas shopping list. Did she cancel it altogether?? No. it’s delayed. Is the vaccine 100% effective??? Far from it. If fact some reports are saying it’s actually DANGEROUS. But, hey folks, don’t let the facts get in the way of a good anti-Harney rant. That’s Ray Darcys philosophy anyway. Harney TOOK ON this job when no one wanted it. It’s the world’s toughest job and the next person/party that takes it on will have it no easier and be no more effective.

]]> By: Mary Harney tries to hide another crappy cut that costs buttons | Maman Poulet http://www.mamanpoulet.com/mary-harney-cops-out-on-cervical-cancer-vaccine-roll-out/comment-page-1/#comment-84265 Mary Harney tries to hide another crappy cut that costs buttons | Maman Poulet Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:57:16 +0000 http://www.mamanpoulet.com/?p=423#comment-84265 [...] campaign to vaccinate young woman against HPV was not without it’s flaws as I noted on it’s release. The halfhearted announcement of the scheme said it all really about the intent of the government. [...] [...] campaign to vaccinate young woman against HPV was not without it’s flaws as I noted on it’s release. The halfhearted announcement of the scheme said it all really about the intent of the government. [...]

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