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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.mamanpoulet.com/mel-gibson-receives-ifta-wonders-about-amputees/comment-page-1/#comment-46440</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 12:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah Paula - does not mean he didn&#039;t offend! He said that the last time and the time before. 

How is it working for IFTN anyway? Yeah the crowd that run the IFTAS??

IP addresses are great things altogether...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah Paula &#8211; does not mean he didn&#8217;t offend! He said that the last time and the time before. </p>
<p>How is it working for IFTN anyway? Yeah the crowd that run the IFTAS??</p>
<p>IP addresses are great things altogether&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Paula</title>
		<link>http://www.mamanpoulet.com/mel-gibson-receives-ifta-wonders-about-amputees/comment-page-1/#comment-46421</link>
		<dc:creator>Paula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 10:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Build a bridge. The man clearly meant no offence at all and you&#039;re reading far to much into it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Build a bridge. The man clearly meant no offence at all and you&#8217;re reading far to much into it.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://www.mamanpoulet.com/mel-gibson-receives-ifta-wonders-about-amputees/comment-page-1/#comment-44882</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 00:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I’m interested in following a line on the ease with which body difference and disability is still remarked upon.&quot;

Then you will have to study Psychology and the human condition then. Why do people react in different ways to skin colour for example? Why do people react differently to people with different accents - take Overheardindublin for example and the use and abuse of the term &quot;skanger&quot;, &quot;knacker&quot; etc.

I&#039;m sure there are countless other examples of the way people remark on different things and ones viewpoint of such matters will depend on what &quot;group&quot; one affiliates oneself with....

Alan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’m interested in following a line on the ease with which body difference and disability is still remarked upon.&#8221;</p>
<p>Then you will have to study Psychology and the human condition then. Why do people react in different ways to skin colour for example? Why do people react differently to people with different accents &#8211; take Overheardindublin for example and the use and abuse of the term &#8220;skanger&#8221;, &#8220;knacker&#8221; etc.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure there are countless other examples of the way people remark on different things and ones viewpoint of such matters will depend on what &#8220;group&#8221; one affiliates oneself with&#8230;.</p>
<p>Alan</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.mamanpoulet.com/mel-gibson-receives-ifta-wonders-about-amputees/comment-page-1/#comment-44050</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darragh argue away!! :)

I have written about this stuff before sort of...I&#039;m referring specifically to disability rather than illness and disease etc in these posts. I&#039;m not against charitable giving and fund-raising - just charity and disability and the way in which it impacts on peoples notion of disability.

For more of my thoughts and yeah I will keep coming back to it all again! 

People in need got sorted by me &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://www.mamanpoulet.com/?p=242&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;

With revealing follow up post &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://www.mamanpoulet.com/?p=247&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;

and over 2 years ago I wrote something on my old blog &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://mamanpoulet.blogspot.com/2005/12/disability-charity-and-rights.html.&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;

(By the way I now work as a full time professional disability advocate oh the prophesies of posting and all that... ;))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darragh argue away!! <img src='http://www.mamanpoulet.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I have written about this stuff before sort of&#8230;I&#8217;m referring specifically to disability rather than illness and disease etc in these posts. I&#8217;m not against charitable giving and fund-raising &#8211; just charity and disability and the way in which it impacts on peoples notion of disability.</p>
<p>For more of my thoughts and yeah I will keep coming back to it all again! </p>
<p>People in need got sorted by me <a target="_blank" href="http://www.mamanpoulet.com/?p=242" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow">here</a></p>
<p>With revealing follow up post <a target="_blank" href="http://www.mamanpoulet.com/?p=247" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow">here</a></p>
<p>and over 2 years ago I wrote something on my old blog <a target="_blank" href="http://mamanpoulet.blogspot.com/2005/12/disability-charity-and-rights.html." rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow">here</a></p>
<p>(By the way I now work as a full time professional disability advocate oh the prophesies of posting and all that&#8230; <img src='http://www.mamanpoulet.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
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		<title>By: Darragh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darragh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;MP&lt;/i&gt;, I&#039;m don&#039;t mean to argue with you, because I luv the blog, respect your opinions and the way you deliver the, and admire the talent you have at bringing these issues to light but I don&#039;t understand how raising awareness and money for some very worthy causes can be a bad thing, or anything but a positive step towards improving our cultural attitude and ignorance towards the whole area or idea of &quot;differently abled&quot;.  Maybe it&#039;s something you could write about when you get the time? I&#039;d genuinely love to get the perspective.

On a side note, your take on Gibson &quot;catching himself&quot; was exactly how it happened.

&lt;i&gt;Sean&lt;/i&gt; There may well be an element of that as you say, because there always is a bit of that in everything, but I think it&#039;s unfair to see the rise as just that. People (like me) are realising they&#039;re lucky to what they have, are realising they&#039;re in a position to raise funds and awareness and to genuinely make a difference, and are out there, voluntarily, shaking buckets, selling daffodils, hosting coffee mornings and so on all to be part of trying to make this country and the world a better place. Yes, there are massive needs for education, integration and understanding, but still, I go back to saying it&#039;s better than nothing. For far too long Ireland has hidden the things it&#039;s been told to be ashamed of, and that included people. There&#039;s a generation out there that refuses to be like that, who want to help, and who just may not know the best way how. But at least they&#039;re doing something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>MP</i>, I&#8217;m don&#8217;t mean to argue with you, because I luv the blog, respect your opinions and the way you deliver the, and admire the talent you have at bringing these issues to light but I don&#8217;t understand how raising awareness and money for some very worthy causes can be a bad thing, or anything but a positive step towards improving our cultural attitude and ignorance towards the whole area or idea of &#8220;differently abled&#8221;.  Maybe it&#8217;s something you could write about when you get the time? I&#8217;d genuinely love to get the perspective.</p>
<p>On a side note, your take on Gibson &#8220;catching himself&#8221; was exactly how it happened.</p>
<p><i>Sean</i> There may well be an element of that as you say, because there always is a bit of that in everything, but I think it&#8217;s unfair to see the rise as just that. People (like me) are realising they&#8217;re lucky to what they have, are realising they&#8217;re in a position to raise funds and awareness and to genuinely make a difference, and are out there, voluntarily, shaking buckets, selling daffodils, hosting coffee mornings and so on all to be part of trying to make this country and the world a better place. Yes, there are massive needs for education, integration and understanding, but still, I go back to saying it&#8217;s better than nothing. For far too long Ireland has hidden the things it&#8217;s been told to be ashamed of, and that included people. There&#8217;s a generation out there that refuses to be like that, who want to help, and who just may not know the best way how. But at least they&#8217;re doing something.</p>
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		<title>By: Twenty Major</title>
		<link>http://www.mamanpoulet.com/mel-gibson-receives-ifta-wonders-about-amputees/comment-page-1/#comment-44027</link>
		<dc:creator>Twenty Major</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe he meant people who had had their arms hacked off by a machete. And I think we can all see the funny side of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe he meant people who had had their arms hacked off by a machete. And I think we can all see the funny side of that.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Reynolds</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean Reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, he could have just said the statuette was shit...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, he could have just said the statuette was shit&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://www.mamanpoulet.com/mel-gibson-receives-ifta-wonders-about-amputees/comment-page-1/#comment-43965</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair enough - when I saw it myself I didn&#039;t take it as a gaffe and took his &quot;what happened to his arms!&quot; as a playful &quot;oh my God his arms have fallen off / someone dropped the statuette backstage and broke it&quot; kind of joke rather than a &quot;This statuette is a freak because he has no arms&quot;.

As for remarks on body difference and disability, I&#039;m not sure if it applies to comments on a statuette. People will often refer to objects as being unusually shaped, or even weird with no negative inference towards disability or body difference intended... because they&#039;re not talking about people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough &#8211; when I saw it myself I didn&#8217;t take it as a gaffe and took his &#8220;what happened to his arms!&#8221; as a playful &#8220;oh my God his arms have fallen off / someone dropped the statuette backstage and broke it&#8221; kind of joke rather than a &#8220;This statuette is a freak because he has no arms&#8221;.</p>
<p>As for remarks on body difference and disability, I&#8217;m not sure if it applies to comments on a statuette. People will often refer to objects as being unusually shaped, or even weird with no negative inference towards disability or body difference intended&#8230; because they&#8217;re not talking about people.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.mamanpoulet.com/mel-gibson-receives-ifta-wonders-about-amputees/comment-page-1/#comment-43962</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Darragh &lt;/em&gt;- I have written a bit on the blog about disability and charity - People in Need etc. If we heard more about how society is disabling rather than from celebs urging monry and pity for the disabled the world would be a far far better place. My personal experience is a desire for rights and not charity, the less buckets and photo ops of poor unfortunates with soccer stars or brave ones taking their first steps the better!!

&lt;em&gt;Adam &lt;/em&gt;- My take on it was he was joking about body deformity before he quickly realised where he was and what he was doing.  From the other people who saw it - I got the same infernece from their reaction. I tend to double check these things cos as a disabled person my own opinion seems to be invalid from time to time!

I&#039;m interested in following a line on the ease with which body difference and disability is still remarked upon.

And on the Hoddle I was making links between Gibson&#039;s faith and his various recent indiscretions...and on my previous post on people putting their foot in it regarding disabled people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Darragh </em>- I have written a bit on the blog about disability and charity &#8211; People in Need etc. If we heard more about how society is disabling rather than from celebs urging monry and pity for the disabled the world would be a far far better place. My personal experience is a desire for rights and not charity, the less buckets and photo ops of poor unfortunates with soccer stars or brave ones taking their first steps the better!!</p>
<p><em>Adam </em>- My take on it was he was joking about body deformity before he quickly realised where he was and what he was doing.  From the other people who saw it &#8211; I got the same infernece from their reaction. I tend to double check these things cos as a disabled person my own opinion seems to be invalid from time to time!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m interested in following a line on the ease with which body difference and disability is still remarked upon.</p>
<p>And on the Hoddle I was making links between Gibson&#8217;s faith and his various recent indiscretions&#8230;and on my previous post on people putting their foot in it regarding disabled people.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://www.mamanpoulet.com/mel-gibson-receives-ifta-wonders-about-amputees/comment-page-1/#comment-43956</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Mel Gibson comments on an armless statuette and then says there are people in real life like that.

Am I the only one who fails to see the offence within this? At the very least it&#039;s hardly equatable to Glen Hoddle&#039;s view that people with disabilities are disabled as a result of being evil in a past life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Mel Gibson comments on an armless statuette and then says there are people in real life like that.</p>
<p>Am I the only one who fails to see the offence within this? At the very least it&#8217;s hardly equatable to Glen Hoddle&#8217;s view that people with disabilities are disabled as a result of being evil in a past life.</p>
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