Comments on: The Gentleman’s Agreement and other controls http://www.mamanpoulet.com/the-gentlemans-agreement-and-other-controls/ Clucking away crookedly through media, politics and life. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 16:53:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: EWI http://www.mamanpoulet.com/the-gentlemans-agreement-and-other-controls/comment-page-1/#comment-136967 EWI Tue, 05 Jan 2010 23:10:47 +0000 http://www.mamanpoulet.com/?p=2706#comment-136967 <i>Where do these agreements lie now? Are the gloves off and a ruthless media unleashed?</i> The problem is, I think, that TV3 are very much a yellow-pack operation and their news centre may be (i) inexperienced as to the ways of the world and (ii) desperate for that big break, given that they're rather unlikely to ever attain the funding and prestige otherwise needed to fund investigations and to get access. Where do these agreements lie now? Are the gloves off and a ruthless media unleashed?

The problem is, I think, that TV3 are very much a yellow-pack operation and their news centre may be (i) inexperienced as to the ways of the world and (ii) desperate for that big break, given that they’re rather unlikely to ever attain the funding and prestige otherwise needed to fund investigations and to get access.

]]> By: Catch Up – Part One « Kick Out The Jams http://www.mamanpoulet.com/the-gentlemans-agreement-and-other-controls/comment-page-1/#comment-136779 Catch Up – Part One « Kick Out The Jams Mon, 04 Jan 2010 23:08:24 +0000 http://www.mamanpoulet.com/?p=2706#comment-136779 [...] the story until the Lenihan family had been informed. This just goes to show that there is a very cosy relationship between the Government and news media. Why should news of this magnitude not be reported? It is a [...] [...] the story until the Lenihan family had been informed. This just goes to show that there is a very cosy relationship between the Government and news media. Why should news of this magnitude not be reported? It is a [...]

]]> By: pratie9 http://www.mamanpoulet.com/the-gentlemans-agreement-and-other-controls/comment-page-1/#comment-136771 pratie9 Mon, 04 Jan 2010 22:24:38 +0000 http://www.mamanpoulet.com/?p=2706#comment-136771 What is happening in the HSE along with the other cuts in services are part and parcel of the reorganisation that western capitalism undertakes periodically. When it happened in the UK Michael Heseltine, Thatcher's sidekick remarked in an incautious moment that, 'This is class warfare and we are determined to win it.' What more needs to be said other than that it is likely be more severe in Ireland due to the absence of dissent? What is happening in the HSE along with the other cuts in services are part and parcel of the reorganisation that western capitalism undertakes periodically. When it happened in the UK Michael Heseltine, Thatcher’s sidekick remarked in an incautious moment that,
‘This is class warfare and we are determined to win it.’
What more needs to be said other than that it is likely be more severe in Ireland due to the absence of dissent?

]]> By: Holemaster http://www.mamanpoulet.com/the-gentlemans-agreement-and-other-controls/comment-page-1/#comment-136703 Holemaster Mon, 04 Jan 2010 15:20:30 +0000 http://www.mamanpoulet.com/?p=2706#comment-136703 @ Brian Greene. I have a health industry client and there is no doubt that the HSE is the liquidation vehicle for the health service. They're getting it ready to sell. And people are dying as a result. @ Brian Greene. I have a health industry client and there is no doubt that the HSE is the liquidation vehicle for the health service. They’re getting it ready to sell. And people are dying as a result.

]]> By: Holemaster http://www.mamanpoulet.com/the-gentlemans-agreement-and-other-controls/comment-page-1/#comment-136702 Holemaster Mon, 04 Jan 2010 15:17:30 +0000 http://www.mamanpoulet.com/?p=2706#comment-136702 I hear many scandalous stories about politicians and public figures from reliable sources yet these never seem to make it into the news. We don't have an open press in Ireland, we really don't. The country is too small to rock the boat and still have a career afterwards. I also think Irish people are wary of scandal. They don't really want it said out loud. We're squeamish with the truth. I hear many scandalous stories about politicians and public figures from reliable sources yet these never seem to make it into the news. We don’t have an open press in Ireland, we really don’t. The country is too small to rock the boat and still have a career afterwards.

I also think Irish people are wary of scandal. They don’t really want it said out loud. We’re squeamish with the truth.

]]> By: Brian Greene http://www.mamanpoulet.com/the-gentlemans-agreement-and-other-controls/comment-page-1/#comment-136538 Brian Greene Sun, 03 Jan 2010 17:11:37 +0000 http://www.mamanpoulet.com/?p=2706#comment-136538 The ISE closed below 3000 for the end of year. 2,974.93 86 points below 29/12 close. This story and the picture-gate (apology) are 2 examples of editorial failure in Irish news 2009. I am no fan of John Crown but I have listened to him closely having recorded him at a SP public meeting on health. There is a bigger story here and he is talking about it, beyond privacy and press pack agreements there are needless deaths due to other types of privacy, private health insurance and privatisation of health making profit of the sick. January 9th 2010 it will be 3 years (this week) since Susie Long went on liveline as Rosie. Here is her story in her own words. http://www.rte.ie/radio1/liveline/1020814.html I urge anyone who hasn't read it to read it in full. Harney and co. have done what in these 3 years? Set up doc-on-call which they are now running down (I have a front page piece on this in the Northside People this week). Halligan & co. should chase the bigger story that is staring them in the farce. Pity that car door only got Halligan's hand. The ISE closed below 3000 for the end of year. 2,974.93 86 points below 29/12 close.

This story and the picture-gate (apology) are 2 examples of editorial failure in Irish news 2009. I am no fan of John Crown but I have listened to him closely having recorded him at a SP public meeting on health. There is a bigger story here and he is talking about it, beyond privacy and press pack agreements there are needless deaths due to other types of privacy, private health insurance and privatisation of health making profit of the sick.

January 9th 2010 it will be 3 years (this week) since Susie Long went on liveline as Rosie. Here is her story in her own words. http://www.rte.ie/radio1/liveline/1020814.html I urge anyone who hasn’t read it to read it in full.

Harney and co. have done what in these 3 years? Set up doc-on-call which they are now running down (I have a front page piece on this in the Northside People this week). Halligan & co. should chase the bigger story that is staring them in the farce. Pity that car door only got Halligan’s hand.

]]> By: pratie9 http://www.mamanpoulet.com/the-gentlemans-agreement-and-other-controls/comment-page-1/#comment-136046 pratie9 Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:54:58 +0000 http://www.mamanpoulet.com/?p=2706#comment-136046 The rise in the Iseq following the announcement of Lenihan's illness indicates perhaps that he is perceived not to have gone far enough in his recent mean-spirited budget. If so, the future for the poor and the low-paid is grim as his successor tries to measure up to the market's expectations. Hanafin's idea on cutting child benefit is perhaps the opening shot in a bid for the job. Her language in the context of this suggested cut is interesting. She talks about 'attachment to the book' as a disincentive to work. Straight out of the Thatcher phrasebook circa 1980. Though not actively wishing Lenihan any ill it is difficult to empathise with him on his 'outing', given the recent decisions he has made. The folk who will suffer as a result have no treatment available to them. The rise in the Iseq following the announcement of Lenihan’s illness indicates perhaps that he is perceived not to have gone far enough in his recent mean-spirited budget. If so, the future for the poor and the low-paid is grim as his successor tries to measure up to the market’s expectations. Hanafin’s idea on cutting child benefit is perhaps the opening shot in a bid for the job. Her language in the context of this suggested cut is interesting. She talks about ‘attachment to the book’ as a disincentive to work. Straight out of the Thatcher phrasebook circa 1980. Though not actively wishing Lenihan any ill it is difficult to empathise with him on his ‘outing’, given the recent decisions he has made. The folk who will suffer as a result have no treatment available to them.

]]> By: Laura Daly http://www.mamanpoulet.com/the-gentlemans-agreement-and-other-controls/comment-page-1/#comment-135930 Laura Daly Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:41:29 +0000 http://www.mamanpoulet.com/?p=2706#comment-135930 @MelR... gosh is it mature to blackmail a man into telling who he needed to tell in 48 hours? Did you ever consider that the man may still be coming to terms with the diagnoses himself. The Government is virtually shut down till New Year and no public interest was served by this piece of trash TV. The people have the right to know but not at the expensive of a man's health, family and decent human feeling. Treating people with Cancer in a despicable way is not healthy. @MelR… gosh is it mature to blackmail a man into telling who he needed to tell in 48 hours? Did you ever consider that the man may still be coming to terms with the diagnoses himself. The Government is virtually shut down till New Year and no public interest was served by this piece of trash TV. The people have the right to know but not at the expensive of a man’s health, family and decent human feeling. Treating people with Cancer in a despicable way is not healthy.

]]> By: MelR http://www.mamanpoulet.com/the-gentlemans-agreement-and-other-controls/comment-page-1/#comment-135827 MelR Tue, 29 Dec 2009 23:13:39 +0000 http://www.mamanpoulet.com/?p=2706#comment-135827 TV3 behaved in a mature manner and did absolutely the right thing by bringing Lenihan's illness out into the public arena, the people have a right to know. For to long the media and the governing establishment have kept secrets and this has done more harm than good, treating the public as if they are children is not healthy. TV3 behaved in a mature manner and did absolutely the right thing by bringing Lenihan’s illness out into the public arena, the people have a right to know.

For to long the media and the governing establishment have kept secrets and this has done more harm than good, treating the public as if they are children is not healthy.

]]> By: SeanR http://www.mamanpoulet.com/the-gentlemans-agreement-and-other-controls/comment-page-1/#comment-135814 SeanR Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:03:05 +0000 http://www.mamanpoulet.com/?p=2706#comment-135814 Gentlemen's agreement how are ya! Sometimes, you get sick of the media not reporting 'sensitive' issues because invariably it is about protecting the elite when disclosing the truth to the nation is more critical. Given Lenihan's seniority in an (albeit discredited) government, TV3 did the right thing. Gentlemen’s agreement how are ya! Sometimes, you get sick of the media not reporting ‘sensitive’ issues because invariably it is about protecting the elite when disclosing the truth to the nation is more critical. Given Lenihan’s seniority in an (albeit discredited) government, TV3 did the right thing.

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