‘You can’t believe everything you read in a blog’
Posted by Maman Poulet on 05 May 2009 at 07:06 pm | Tagged as: Blogging
A knock on the door tonight was very odd – we never get anyone actually knocking on the apartment door. I answered it and two women smiled at me. I thought Jehovahs Witnesses but I then spied a little book with the name Victoria Jackson on it.
I said Oh I’d heard of it –
VJ: ‘Where said they.’
MP: Beaut.ie and they didn’t like it.’
VJ: Oh you can’t believe everything you read on a blog. (They said blog rather than web – I never mentioned blog!)
MP: Eh actually I….
And then I stopped and thought I don’t need to start that one on my doorstep. I closed the door and locked it. I don’t need the grief of a debate on consumer knowledge and intelligence and I don’t buy something like makeup from the door.
Read The Beauts post that I remembered and all the readers comments.
I don’t think you should believe everything you read on a blog – but I do trust Beaut.ie and am laughing at the sales pitch being used by the poor unfortunate sales staff to rebut anyone who may have read about them. Like you should always believe a sales person and their bumph.
Amazing! So you can’t believe everything you read on a blog … but you can 100% trust Victoria Jackson. Gawd dagnit Mamam P, you should have bankrupted yourself on their excellent €30 talc and mica deals!!
LOL my skin itches at the thought of it!
Hi girls, I recently applied for a job with this company “D7 Marketing Solutions” so as you do when you are invited for interview, I decided I should carry out a bit of research, so that I could blow them away in the interview with my awsomness!! But when I saw this blog, I was like eeeek, something’s not right here, so I phoned the company back, and told her what I’d read on the blog and she said, “we can’t control what people put on the internet” (must be a company catchphrase) anywho, the moral of my rant is that the job was advertised as “advertising executive” I was so excited because I’m graduating from college this year and I want to go into advertising, but as it turns out it is basically a door to door salesperson position, even though the lady at D7 marketing solutions didn’t tell me this, I guessed for myself, when I asked her out straight “is this job door to door sales?” she was really evasive and was dodging the question (she must be related to a politician!!), but anyway, she told me that the manager would tell me more in the interview. Needless to say I haven’t got back to them regarding and interview, I am so annoyed though, do they think that job applicants are so thick that they won’t figure out that they have been lied to and manipulated. Also I have heard that you only get paid pure comission, so if you don’t make a sale then you get no euros, and all the comission you get for every product sold is €7!!! Beware of these cowboys girls and guys!! xoxoxox
just fell for the same trick myself! feel so upset and stupid! went to a huge amount of effort for this interview in the hope that i will make my way in a marketing company which is what i want! if anyone is in the posistion, my company is called (LMS london marketing services) please read all the above and more information on these types of companies. its obviously a new found thing and someone somewhere is making a huge amount of money at our expense. we spend our hard working days, with little if any pay which is based on commision by the way to sell their crap! and i should have known it was a sceme because i had never heard of victoria jackson! which is saying something because im very clued up in the beauty biz! honestly, its a huge shame but im just glad i never went any further!
i hope this helps someone.
ha!!!!!!! just had my first interview there as well… It did look strange, the manager never mentioned door to door, just told me to wear comfortable shoes!! haha, what a dick!
I am 18 and I was offered a job with d7 marketing yesterday. I would advise everyone to stay well away from these people. I felt like a fool when I sat down and thought about what they had told me. You can get into a lot of deep trouble if you get caught with this stuff. All their system is a lie. There is no way you can be a manager in 7months. They hire young people because they are more naive. I myself was ashamed I fell for it. They pay in cash and do not have you on any books so if you get caught they have no record of you. Advise would be to have nothing to do with them! It is a total scam!
I have just recieved a call and e-mail from (LMS) London Marketing services but am happy i read these blogs before i subjected my self to the rubbish,
Higuys I just fell for the same trick aswell please please please if you know someone considering going for an interview with this company dont let them i was called back for an observation day. Aswell i was told to wear comfortable shoes. I was assigned a mentor and was brought on a bus for an hour and we arrive at a housing estate. I had no idea where I was was and had to get people to sign up to a direct debit to the charity concern till 8 o clock that night then had to get a bus back to the office and was offered the job. It was a horrible experience and i wasted so much time and effort its a huge scam dont go near their office and dont sign up for a direct debit with these people at your door i watched one man give “My Mentor” his full bank details at his door step to sign up. I cant say whether or not this was a safe thing to do and that teh money even goes to the charity because as much as I questionned this system I never received a straight answer but just from my experience i am terrfied they even have my name! The job description was a marketing role I have just graduated from a marketing course and believe me you would be better off on the dole than wasting your time and effort with this company!!
Sorry, this is lengthy and has been posted elsewhere before, but it might help you!!!
LONDON MARKETING SERVICES – DON’T APPLY!!!!!
I was invited for a preliminary interview, 4 weeks after I applied for an ‘entry-level marketing management’ position online. I went to their offices in South London and was taken aback by the number of applicants, all wearing their Sunday suits, already sitting there and filling out questionnaires.
There was definitely a competitive atmosphere and nobody dared to talk. At second glance, the office seemed shabby. I though straight away that this place doesn’t look like a marketing agency’s office at all! Apart from lots of chairs, there was a circular reception + 2 Australian receptionists who seemed to be talking on their phones non-stop, greeting yet more applicants and generally looking very busy. Applicants were asked to join the confident American interviewers in pairs, groups of three or alone. I’m sure this only added to the tension in the waiting area and people nervously watched each other.
The interviewing process was strange, I can’t remember the interviewer’s name, but he talked and talked and talked with a loud voice and conviction.
The business is called ‘customer acquisition’ and LMS apparently does the ‘face-to-face’ bit. He also explained the training scheme (apparently 6-10 months for everything, till you’re a manager! – ridiculous)
I found it hard to filter out any kind of concrete information. Normally you’d know about the salary, be asked whether there are any questions, bla bla.. This interview featured none of that. I was then told to come back for the second round interviews the next day. (so was the guy who joined me in the interview by the way…)
At home I found an email from the receptionist (she was also the same person who emailed me before, did they have time to brief her???? Wth the large number of applicants??? In only 30 mins????), congratulating me on my ‘very successful’ interview and inviting me for round 2, from 9.30to 19.00. A VERY long day!
I started noticing lots of odd things about the interview and about the email! There was the fact that I was told to wear ‘flat, comfortable shoes, as you will be out and about all day’. This set alarm bells ringing and I ended up thinking about the interview, it was all very intimidating, almost ‘Apprentice’ -like, with everything done very seriously, and of course, at the end of it: The supposed top-job!
Luckily, I found a handful of entries online, including this website. I read further and found how people experienced the second round of interviews, there were a lot of descriptions of door-to-door selling or street- fundraising. Just like on this blog here. It really saved me a LOT of time and I feel stupid for not having done any research before the 1st interview …
Both days probably legally counts as a type of interviewing process and therefore don’t have to be reimbursed.
In the USA this is known as the ‘One-day-job-scam’, and the likelihood that you get that great-sounding ‘entry-level’ position is very small.
People, do not apply here!! You will very disappointed. It is flattering to be told that you made it, but the second day doesn’t hold up to its promises.
I would love to hear from the people who were in Shand Street for the preliminary interviews on the 29th of June at 3.30.
HAHAHAHA! I got a call from D7 Marketing today after applying yesterday and after seeing their lack of information on their site got suspicious and found this site:
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/412/RipOff0412773.htm
almost simultaneously I got an email from a friend with this page, after he researched it looking to apply after my apparent “success”. I’m almost tempted to go to the interview and jerk then around a little.
Hi Guys,
Thanks for this. I got a funny call from that crowd today (D7 Marketing Solutions). I had applied for a few jobs over the weekend so I wasn’t really sure which one this one was and agreed to an interview tomorrow in Dublin without thinking about it much.
I came home and checked their site.. it basically says a whole load of nothing… So kept searching for more about em on the net and I’m really glad to stumble upon this blog (and this isn’t the only blog saying they are a scam). I won’t be showing up to that interview anyway.
Thanks
Oh my god, thank you so so much to everyone posting about LMS. Got a phone call for them earlier today for an interview this afternoon and after a thorough googling I found this site. Thank you guys so much for reporting on your experiences! I am really glad I didn’t waste my time on a scam.
Hi all,
I’m afraid I’ve also had experience of such a marketing company based in the North East of England. I went for an interview and also the second ‘working’ interview where I witnessed the make-up being sold in a shopping centre. People who wished to pay with credit card had their detials passed on to ‘the office’ over the phone.This definitely set alarm bells of in my head The sales pitch was also a heap of waffle of which I didn’t know if any of it was true. I also got the spiel about the company manager in 12 months on 100k plus a year, which seemed tempting, but also far to good to be true. If it’s that easy to do why isn’t everyone else doing it?! I’m annoyed that I didn’t do a bit more homework on the job, but it proves difficult when there is no website for the company or any mention of it at all on the internet which says it all really!!
Be wary folks – it is true that if something is too good to be true it probably is.
hi,
I’ve been asked to go for an interview with London Marketing Services. I was first asked a few months ago, but upon me telling the girl over the phone (Bridget) I was in the middle of a course she asked to ring back later. So I did, rang them last week, as it was coming towards to end of my course.
Now this was before any interview or anything but she asked me I would be able to start immediately, as the words ‘too good to be true’ rang through my head I said no, I have my exams in a few weeks. Fine she said ring me back then.
Fast forward a couple of weeks, I’m in the middle of my exams and I won’t be calling Bridget back. I didn’t believe at first, but I’m after hearing quite a few bad things on these guys.
Think I’ll leave Bridget wait.
Hi guys,
I too nearly fell for it, but being a cynical git thought that an entry level marketing role for someone fresh out of uni was too good an offer to be real, and it seems I was right. I ignored the offer of interview, and unlike a normal company nobody has chased me.
Just a heads up – they’re now operating out of Luton, Collingdon Street so stay clear!
hey guys I’m writing about D7 marketing solutions also!
DO NOT APPLY!
i went for a quick interview where they told me to come back on monday wearing comfortable shoes, so i did,i was told all these lies that i would be this manager in 9months or so and when i kept askin about the pay the ‘magager’ as he called himself kept dodging the question,we went into sooooo many businesses and were told to leave by most of them as you would seen as there a business,there busy.i was even made go into the rape crises centre and a clinic for women wit hepotitus c to try and sell things,how disgusting is that?
i felt like a criminal.
also i was thought certain vocabulary to convince people to buy the stuff (such as were giving away freebies which was a lie and there ONLY 20 euro) and grab there hand even if they didnt want it to demonstrate on them.the guy i was with used two different names when we were going around,and different ages to try and get sales and lied about the products original prices too.police even went over to two people selling stuff so i heard off others there because they obviously knew it was dodgey.after my full interview i was given the job and was ‘part of the company’ so i decided to go in the nxt day and see what if it was going to be any different.it was but it was worse.we all had to dance in a circle and high 5 each other.it was just unprofessional and a scam.and you get paid 5euro for every one you sold so i was told off somebody there also. i decided not to turn up and i got a very angry voicemail at 08:11 the nxt morning saying where was i etc oh and when i asked about payment another time i was told ‘but you get your free training and then you can start making your money’ i was like eeeehhh okaaay.training for what like?harrassing people??
on my full day when it was after 6 in the evening(bare it in mind i had been there since 8 and had to get up at 5 am)i wanted to go home and not go back to the office but my ‘manager’ was insisting it was necessary to go back (probably to do more dancing or God knows what else)but luckily i got away after i said i had to go,i said something came up.
basically D7 marketing is a group of cons and is not a real job,they dress formal to cover themselves.they want you to walk around for like 9 hours where you make a fool of yourself.DO NOT APPLY because its just a waste of time,you dont get paid and nothing comes out of it.
Yep, i’m supposed to go for an interview on Wednesday. Im so glad i saw this site before wasting my time! I thought that their website was very vague, with no hyperlinks or case studies of previous work. I was like who the hell is Victoria Jackson..googled her and found the crappest website ever..i thought that they must’ve been a rubbish marketing firm to represent a client like this..but now i know that its just a scam. Is it even legal?
hi I have just done interview in waterford for (Edited for Legal Reasons) and the phone me after to give me a job.I phoned the number back and the phone was answered “d7 marketing”. meant to call down tommorow to discuss contract . dont think I will go.
hi mary just wondering how you got on I have interview with (Edited for Legal Reasons) monday and I hope its not another scam group….please let me know
Hi, OMG I just got a mail inviting me for an interview at 11am tom from (Edited for Legal Reasons) anyone help??
really need a job.
RE: post- Anika Mee
I was also interviewed by LMS (London Marketing Services)I thinhk it was the week before though. And attended the ‘assessment say’ of the second interview. A couple of the other applicants and I smelled a rat whilw waiting for out final interview, and tried to flop the interview. I got the job though, nut after reading this thread and a number of others Im glad I didnt take it!
I used to work for LMS. And yeah, I saw people get promoted etc. but I also realised pretty quickly that even those getting promoted who were offered their own office, were just office managers, not company directors or anything like that. The power stays with PerDM, the group that owns all of these ‘direct marketing’ companies. I lasted a couple of weeks, then quit, couldn’t stand the brainwashing they were trying to instill. Stay well clear of these companies. All you’ll end up doing is wasting your time. They don’t even pay expenses to get to where you will be working!!
hi,I have done my first interview with LMS and they called tommoro for second from 12.30 to 8.30.Now after reading all this I am confused?
first thing I realised I never applied this company but still I got first prelimanary interview.I passed it and they calling me for second.I never had any marketing experirnce but still they chose me.
tommoro they calling me don’t know what to do?
Hi Mary, Anna, Manda and everyone,
I did apply for a job with D7 as well and then found out it’s involving door to door selling, but we know that by now. In August my sent application on jobs.ie changed automatically to Protea Direct Dublin –
Edited for legal reasons
Anika Mee i was there on the same day 29th June 3h30
went through the same too! lol
didn t take the job either!!! im glad !!!
hi all,
first let me say how pathetic ye all sound.I have been working for perdm now for 4 weeks and am already a trainee manager.i earn approx 500-550 euro per week.It is simple,as with any business you will get out what you put in.ok i will admit the hours are long but i love it,i get to meet lots of people and its lots of fun.cant believe people have the time to be posting on here,have ye not got jobs or a life.you shouldnt make perceptions of a company just by the interview,the interview is vital to good customer service .we cant just take on any person,its not for everyone especially if you haven been self employed before,mainly because the majority of people are scared to take a risk ,frankly its pathetic that so many people dont want to be successful in life.this company and so many others like it are very respected world wide by huge corporations many of which are very much so in our daily lives.the way i look at it is,if it works it works if it doesnt well at least i tried,its better than been on the dole.
I was sucked in by the charming T K at LMS.
i worked there for about 3 months last year.
Everyone around me told me it was a scam and to quit but each time i thought about it or expressed doubts i was whisked away and talked out of it. Then the equally as charming J Y (apparently PerDM’s biggest success story) gives us all a talk on how he had doubts but stuck with it. Evetually i realised i was spending more to get to work than i was making in a week. also leaving home at 5am and returning at 9pm was having a toll on my health! so i letf. the week before i left they had me selling health insurance in the middle of tesco!!
Total scam. avoid like the plague. wasted so much time, money and effort working there.
Re Sean on the 28th October 2009 @ 00:24
You must be working very hard if the only time you get to post on this board is at 00:24. It’s true you have to be ruthless to be sucessful in life, but when big companies are using you like a little puppet to achieve their goals it’s pretty sad. You say the hours are long and you love it, you must not have much else going on in your life if that is the case. I interviewed with such a marketing company a few months ago and they are the shadiest of companies to work for with a different company name for each day of the week. I am glad to say I declined the job offer and held out for something more worthwhile. Currently I am earning well above 550 pounds sterling a week doing something a lot more honest and beneficial. I work 8.30 to 5.30 Monday to Friday so I can also live my life like a normal human being.
I’m sure your eyes will open to reality soon.
Regards,
IP
The way these companies work is awful.
I worked in recruitment for LMS cardiff for a month before feeling so depressed about what we were doing that I quit. these companies use people, and I have seen first hand how manipulative they can be, and how the work life there can cause serious effects on people’s personal lives.
In response to sean, i was in charge of calling people, booking interview etc, and the only people that weren’t asked back for second interview were those who couldn’t speak English! Everyone who actually came back for, and stayed the whole day through the second interview would be offered a job! It’s not selective. Just as the reps are told every day, it’s a numbers game. The more people you offer a job to, the more people are likely to actually work there. It’s horrible.
I would like to say sorry to anyone at all who had interviews in cardiff while i was working there. I felt awful the whole time, and hated misleading people. i honestly hope that you all find decent job, where the company respects you, and where you deserve to be.
I started work for London Marketing Services in Luton on thursday!After my 1st interview with two people was successful and my 2nd observation day also successful i started to feel excited about getting the job, but after selling three items on friday a grand total of £15 for 10 hrs work i started to doubt this was the job for me.
After a 15hrs day down in london on Saturday (yes its a 6day week) and only earning £25 i knew this wasnt the job for me, i have two children and all i kept thinking was how am i going to buy them xmas presents? Even back at their London Bridge office in London i expressed my concern and upset to be told iv done great to sell anything in my first 2 days and to focus on the end goal of becoming a manager BLAH BLAH
Myself and collegues took the long journey back to the office leaving London at 9pm we started talking and this is how i found this site, as i write this my trainee manager is calling me to talk about my week ahead,ITS SUNDAY!( until she promotes me she cant be promoted herself i got told in 2weeks ill be a trainer)
I shall not be returning Monday morning and its a shame because everyone is so nice there but with 20 interviews a day everyday im sure my spot will be filled by tomorrow!
Hi guys,
do u have any experience with XXXX (edited for so called legal reasons) ? i ve got call several minutes ago for an interview for tomorrow, i am trying to get more infos about this company ,so i wrote on google and got this link….but cant find any XXXX (edited for legal reasons) inofrmation here…?! thanks
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I believe are both located at 27 Capel Street…so I am guessing the same stunt under a different name…don’t waste your time or shoes
Hi Dasa,
I think XXXX Company (edited by Maman Poulet) are part of d7 Marketing solutions (operating under different names). My friend was at an interview today, promising (account manager) position after training of 8 months and told to come back wearing comfortable shoes tomorrow for 8 hours. So…after initially getting excited, she thought about it more….and things didn’t add up, so she won’t be going in tomorrow to to door to door sales.
(edited for legal reasons), I got an interview with X a few weeks ago and immiediately read up on them for the interview but their website had nothing to say and didn’t even list any of their clients (because there aren’t any). Didn’t take too much searching the internet to discover what they were all about, if anyone is dumb enough to work for them they deserve what they get.
I went for 1st interview today. First impression – very unproffesional office and staff. After conversation /without any details!/ I knew what sort of ‘company’ this is. THANKS, BUT NO, THANKS!…
I applied for an LMS job yesterday in the middle of a fit of pure desperation. I’ve been out of work for years and, as I dropped out of nursing college after a mental breakdown and worked only voluntary jobs since then, finding a company who’ll even look at an applicant with my work history is tough. For that reason alone I tend to apply for anything that looks even vaguely like it’ll accept me: I want an administration job, but someone in my position can’t afford to be picky.
I was suspicious from the start as even for a job advert, the LMS listing seemed vague about what the position actually involved. I filled out the application anyway as I figured that maybe the listing, which claimed to be for something to do with corporate events, was just rather poorly-written and if the company got back to me maybe they’d be a bit more specific about it. Of course, as no doubt they ask everyone who sends in a CV in to interview, they did. Worryingly quickly, in fact, as I sent off my application after office hours yesterday and received the response at a little after half past 9. That didn’t exactly suggest any real degree of thought had gone into the ’selection process’.
Then of course there was the company homepage which, once again, told me virtually nothing. More suspiciously still, the photographs on the site were little more than tourist-postcard glamor shouts of the South Bank. I’m not massively familiar with corporate websites, but those I have seen tend to look a little more personal than the LMS page does. No pictures of the offices inside or out, no pictures of the staff, no pictures of what they get up to at the ‘trade shows’ they claim to attend – and this job had initially been presented as events marketing, not street sales – and for a company that claims to be going from strength to strength, a client list of two isn’t exactly impressive stuff.
That was when I turned to Google, and when I found this blog. Thank you for confirming my suspicions, and for putting this stuff out there, saving me and people like me from a monumental waste of time, energy and money. Desperate though I may be to find a job, I’m not that desperate.
hahaha notice how most of these blogs are from women!! u think cos u have a marketing degree u can walk into a high paid job and do nothing!??? No pain no gain girls ur all saps scared of a bita hard work! if u cant cold call ur nt made for marketing! Do u just think its about puttin flyers together and parties! Fools the lot of u! 7 marketing is just another pyramid sales company like all the others! Yes u can make money and alot of it u just have to work hard which these ladies have obv. Never done? Im proof i no longer work there i run a very successful company of my own which takes alot of hard work b till rm at night and how do i do it cos of previous jobs like dv! Puts work ethic into u! Girls can flash a bit of leg or clevage in life to get aheaad us guys have to take these jobs and prove ourselves! Just shows none of these girls have ambition only green eyes expectin a flimsy graduation paper will get u a top job? Grow up love!
I got a call off a company called , 27 capel street, last night around 5ish looking for me to go for an interview today at 1.15pm. I was suspicious from the start. The lady was over enthusiastic about the manager wanting to meet me and how soon the interview was. I was told the exact time and was told this was due to the high volume of applicants. Im not going. Its a scam.
Oh and ladies, don’t mind richies post. He cant spell for christ sake. Now he’s ‘running’ his own business? Sounds like he’s one of the heartless few that got a bit ahead of the rest in these companies and has been charged with defending it. Remember, you may not make the big 5 euro profit on a sale because you have a conscience but take solace in knowing your better and smarter than Richie and companies like this!
Thanks guys, I just got called for an interview as well last minute. Got a call at 5.55 to go to an interview the next day aswell. I was feeling really uneasy about it aswell and decided to check it out because as previously mentioned if there is such a high volume of people applying to this job how would they get back to you so soon for an immediate interview. I was goin to move to Dublin unaware that it would be door to door position. Complete scam!!!
Hi guys, just felt compelled to make my own point as I can totally understand all your skepticism, however, working for D7 Marketing now for the past three months and loving it, as I am no longer sitting around waiting to work for some company that may or may not be in existence next year but taking my own opportunity, career and success into my own hands. Can anyone here tell me of any other “job” where the more you put in…the more you get out!?
I don’t think so but keep on blogging so that you can all wallow in your own self pity.
Or maybe just grow up!!!!
thank god i found this i was actually going to turn up tomoro but now im not goin to 27 capel st. I know its a recession but im not that desperate the dole pays more
Hi Guys,
Is there anybody out there who has experience from the second interview from 27 capel street, dublin? I will have the second in few days but reading these comments i dont really wanna go and I need just some advices. Thank You
Aqua Marketing Solutions…does that ring a bell to anyone?
hi guys
ive just been applying for jobs in sheffield and i have come across three of these companies! one of which i attended the first ans second round interviews with. the name of these companies are
Cedar direct (based in nottingham but with an office in sheffield)
Zee solutions
Pace Direct (seems to share the same office as Zee solutions)
Please steer clear as they give you the promise of earning 100K within 12 months if you put the hard work in which is utter nonsence! what struck me was how brain washed the guys where that took me on my observation day where. they genuinly beleived that they where going to be earning big bucks even though they where earning little atm as it is commission only! dont entertain these companies and dont buy victoria jackson make up ITS A SCAM!
I just got invited to a sales managers position.
Door to door comm only sales.
What a load of crap
Hi Everyone, Just to thank everyone who wrote on this blog.. I was just about to apply through jobs.ie and said I would do a bit of research first. Thank God I did:)
Sorry I forgot to mention – D7 Marketing is what it is now being advertised as!!
hey guys, just to let you know, my best friend got caught up in one of these companies and kept telling her and telling her they were falsly promising management and they were taking her for a ride. BUT she did it!??! I dont really understand how, she now runs her own office in another city, it’s totally kosher, she did it in 9 months and I got to benefit from her wage she made £1800 last week! and bought me presents (of course!) I feel like a bad friend for trying to convince her not to do it but it’s just a business opportunity, wish i could do it but dont really wanna work 10 hours a day, blargh!
Wow guys thank you all for your information on the company…. Although I must say I have personally received an invitation for an interview with a company called The Spartan Corporation (which on Jobs.ie also advertises its jobs under XR Marketing and Clearwater Advertising. I too had only applied for a position only a day ago, and was pleasantly surprised when I first got a call from them (as they were the first company to call me back)…. Perhaps it is not even the same company as D7 Marketing, but it sure does follow the same pattern as those described in this (and many other) blogs…. Although I must say that from what I gather this so-called Spartan Corporation had many other names (some of which had actually been sued… including its Managing Director/ Owner).
Anyway Thanks a lot!!!
fair enough if u dont like the job, if its not 4 u, tht doesnt mean its a scam. so rather than being on the dole, this job is a great experience, its great 2 hav on ur cv. it gives u confidence 2, really helps u be the best u can be, whats wrong with enthusiasm. who wnats 2 be miserable in work evry day, its great how they have such a good attitude, u really look at the world in a different way, makes u realise u can actually do anything if you work for it guys n gals. try not to be so negative all the time. if u ar in the job and its costing u more money than u ar making, give urself a chance 2 prove yourself, or maybe ur just not cut out for the work ! its rly very simple… some ppl are just afraid of what they dont know ! so step up and quit the noncense! and i do apologise if i made spelling mistakes (im nly human) b4 some one decides to send a post something ridiculous about me. thanks 4 reading
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Please read it! This is an important message to everybody who applied for ** m******** s******* or i**** d***** ltd [Edited by Maman Poulet for legal reasons] (the same place, but for some unknown reasons they change the name of company). Anyway, I’m talking about the company located in 27 capel street in Dublin.
I worked there for a week and was definitely enough. What they do is a total brainwash. All they do is to convince you that this is the best job ever, you have to sacrifice yourself and “breathe this job”… . You need to be there before 8 every morning, they give you a quick training of selling techniques and teach you how to manipulate others (without using the ‘manipulating’ word) while the person who is taught has no idea that he/she is actually being manipulated. I know a lot about NLP and marketing, so it was so funny to me, when I saw how they use the techniques I know on myself! Another part of the morning meeting is dancing in the circule, clapping hands and shouting how incredible you feel, how amazing you are and so on…
And there is a horribly loud music so you hardly can hear others and even yourself. You become bemused by it. The real aim is to stimulate you to feel great today, smile all the time (if you forget about it, they ask you what’s wrong). They repeat some sentences all the time, and finally you start to believe in them.
They keep on saying that it is not about selling, but it’s about having fun, developing and progressing. The more effort you put, the quicker you are promoted. The promotion means, that you no longer spend in the work 12 hours a day, now you are the first in and the last out (you don’t get any additional payment, still commission based) and your stay at work is longer than 12 hours, and what is more you have to look after others, not only yourself, even though you are an ‘independent distributor’ – that’s how they call you.
After a week of working there I couldn’t think of anything else, they can’t go out of your mind. That was only a week for me (who was actually aware of what they do, but was there only to earn some money for vacations) and I felt that something’s going wrong with me. I remember I was so tired after 5 days of working there and wanted to have a 2 days weekend. Saturdays are not compulsory, but just try not to appear there… so I decided to go there for the first and last time. What I heard during the managerial training was that in a year I will run my own company, earn loads of money, with no risk, and there is no such possibility that it will not happen ;/ I couldn’t look at these faces of my colleagues, so impressed and so amazed. Their comments were so naive that it was really difficult to listen to.
You know what is interesting? The guy who talked about it was a manager and wore a cheap shirt from Dunnes and even cheaper shoes. He did not look as rich as he was supposed to be.
This is a subject I could keep talking and talking about, but I think it is enough to warn you against these companies however it is called now.
Please, give a wide berth from that place.
I really hope it helped someone.
Take care guys
I have got an interview for a company called F*** T**** acquisitions tomorrow, they are based in Sheffield at the same address as P*** Direct and a few other company names i have noticed, and the email i received was the spitting image of 1 i have seen repeated numerously on a different blog….the only thing that had changed was the name of the company. After reading this and the other blog i found i am not going to put my current jobs in danger by taking it any further.
I am so happy i found this site.
Thanks all
Mike
I had an interview yesterday!
Yorkshire – Sheffield (xxx Solutions : sales and marketing)
reconed they represented, oxxxx, cxxxxxxx wxxxxxxxx n Rxxxx and things!! well a dont care what they represent cos its all a load of balls!!
in my interview he explained bit about the company, didnt mention pay at all!! didnt mention door to door just said everythin was client orientated. im 17 years old and he said they hours would be 9am – 11pm. thats a 10hour shift. legally im not alloud to work that long but yet he said it was fine. Im from Barnsley myself so that would mean me getting up at 8 and not getting home while about half 10 at night. He interviewed me and another applicant together! and on our way out he said he would ring us within an hour to let us know if we got the job…. NO THANKS!
a didnt mean to put half 10 at night lol,,, a meant later than that
These companies will suck the life out of you… They will drive you till there is nothing left. This is p***** d*****, d* m********, etc. etc. They are all dangerous!! They will expect you to do door-to-door with no consideration for traveling expenses, weather or insurances…
You guys are so far up your own arses it’s fucking rediculous. Its a fairly basic concept that the biz works on, that being “you only get what you give”. I have now seen 5 ppl start in the biz and progress through it to mgmt level and they’ll be more successful, and richer in 5 years than any of you snotty nosed c**** will be in your entire lives, just coz you were all too fucking stupid or arrogant to understand it. I’d love to know how many of the ppl that posted on this chose to sponge taxpayers money (or daddy’s money, for all you posh d4 fuckheads!!!) instead of trying to see if it is what it actually is.
Anyway, my rant is over, for now.
Upmost respect to you Derek, hope everything is going great for you in belfast.
Till next time……..
Oh, one last thing,
All you posh, rude, arrogant cunts who don’t do business at the door, get a fucking life, stick the kettle on, and show me some of that famous irish hospitality thats only ever found in the dirtiest council estates in the country, by the poorest ppl among us.
We door2door guys/gals are human too you know.